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Mar 6, 2010 17:09:50 GMT -5
Post by Cain on Mar 6, 2010 17:09:50 GMT -5
Well if you want to add a section for Items, go right ahead.
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Mar 10, 2010 6:57:59 GMT -5
Post by Ragsmire on Mar 10, 2010 6:57:59 GMT -5
*Raises hand* i have a question regarding Section two rule seven of the forum rules book. the line reads.
7. Flagships. Members are allowed to own only one Flagship per player character (A maximum of three per member).
I see how specially it stated one per player character but wanted to be absolutely sure about this. Is that implying that there is no buying two or even three flagships for one character at the cost of other characters right to bare a flagship?
And on another note could i get my karma dialed back to neutral as it was on the last site i don't play favorites on character and therefore like to keep it even.
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Mar 10, 2010 11:44:27 GMT -5
Post by Cain on Mar 10, 2010 11:44:27 GMT -5
*Raises hand* i have a question regarding Section two rule seven of the forum rules book. the line reads. 7. Flagships. Members are allowed to own only one Flagship per player character (A maximum of three per member). I see how specially it stated one per player character but wanted to be absolutely sure about this. Is that implying that there is no buying two or even three flagships for one character at the cost of other characters right to bare a flagship? And on another note could i get my karma dialed back to neutral as it was on the last site i don't play favorites on character and therefore like to keep it even. To the first, yes that is correct but only really for listing purposes. I mean you can have one character ride on a ship that isn't theirs all you want. The rule only really effects what bio each ship is placed into. As to the second, sure.
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Mar 22, 2010 23:17:18 GMT -5
Post by vampireangels on Mar 22, 2010 23:17:18 GMT -5
um... why so much white ..... all i see is white lolz any chance of putting audio on here or do i have to use the blind function to read the rules
and is their a simpler way of doing things if ur total newb bout star wars
i seen every movie but i dnt get too much into it so idk what im doing half the time im on here lolz
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Mar 23, 2010 14:27:11 GMT -5
Post by Cain on Mar 23, 2010 14:27:11 GMT -5
Why so much white? That's an interesting question seeing as how most of the skins are predominately black. xD That might be a problem with your computer's ability to load the images here. As for a simpler way to do things, I don't think you need to worry much. If you've seen the movies and understand basic concepts like the Force then you'll do fine. Though if you have the time I would recommend trying the Knights of the Old Republic games. Those could help a lot.
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Apr 29, 2010 5:11:19 GMT -5
Post by Ragsmire on Apr 29, 2010 5:11:19 GMT -5
...Not sure when this'll be answered but I'll ask it anyway.
Recently it as come to my attention that a character posted in the non force user section of the board is learning how to use the force. Normally i would have no problem with characters learning the force and ultimately don't, only curious. I assumed the reason for two different boards was to draw a very clear and definitive line as to who can and cannot learn to use the force, Ergo those who are and those who are not force sensitive, or able to tap into the force as say a Jedi would.
My question when you get right down to it is this; if anyone from "Non force users", All of whom i assumed were not meant to be force sensitive whatsoever, Can up and become a force user whats the point in two different sorting boards...really it just causes more trouble for the Mods when they have to move a profile from one board to another, If there was only one board for characters this problem wouldn't exist.
Maybe I'm a stuck up asshole but i just thought that if ones character was force sensitive and untrained they'd go into the force user section with low stats, To have a character that is suppose to be Han solo-like in that they don't use the force at all become sensitive to it doesn't seem probable. So to make it simple, Why have two boards when one can spit in this form of organization's face without a care.
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Alright I'm going to rant a bit more to make sure this is totally clear. Leia could not use the force at all for the three movies, This is a fact, At least not how Luke did. If one reads the books as i do they would know later she learned how to, Now...did she just develop a sensitivity to the force outta nowhere? No the answer is a resounding no. She was ALWAYS force sensitive, since birth. Han Solo, Boba Fett, Hell Wedge even, none of them were ever force sensitive, Meaning if they were characters here...they'd go in Non force user, Leia she'd be in force user even when she didn't know she could use the force.
I talked to Ash, The creator of the character in question, He told me that he wanted to go a different direction with Zero and thus made him a force user, Which is totally understandable. But if this goes on eventually all non force user characters will convert to force user ones which begs the question. does the boards...border have any real substance? Am i the only one who thuoght that characters posted under non force user could not, Pretty much ever, Utilize it. Unless they were stabbed by some of those force granting crystals that dinosaur guy was trying to make in Jedi academy, or Jedi outcast whatever game that with Kyle was called, I didn't think it possible to switch boards.
So to summarize: WTF is up with the sectioning of boards.
Now to touch on one more subject that one may believe this sounds like. Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes maybe one might say this sounds like a new idea and as such should go over there but i say "Nay" I am not, nor do i have a desire to, ever change how this works, Unless my fears are realized and Characters posted under "Non force user" can become force sensitive out of absolutely nowhere. If that's the case Admins get your asses ready for another new idea from this guy.
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Apr 29, 2010 13:53:56 GMT -5
Post by Sir Lord Ash on Apr 29, 2010 13:53:56 GMT -5
Rag, every living thing in the galaxy is connected to the force. If one person receaved training in it at a young age, and someone else didn't, then so is life, but if that second person learned how to tap into the force and use it, then no big deal. Akira is force sensitive, and was taken by the jedi at a young age because thats the way it turned out. Zero, her older brother, may have been also a force sensitive, as family members usually are. By the time Zero had more siblings, the jedi were whiped out.
Now, if i did origionally have zero as a force sensitive here, his force stats would have been all 0's, and he has no training whatsoever, so he was placed under non-force user. If you also read many books, then there are quite a few force using families that hid from the empire so their children wouldn't be caught by them. I give you Corran Horn, jedi master of the new republic. During the early days, no one knew his family were force users. He never learned his ansestrial leniage. He was also Corellia born. If placed on this site when he was younger, he would be a non-force user. Later on, force user. The same is for Zero
All in all, if someone is a non-force user, all they need is training to become a force user, just like the old site. Simple? lol.
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Apr 29, 2010 14:18:56 GMT -5
Post by Zilfer on Apr 29, 2010 14:18:56 GMT -5
First off..... the deal if it causing more work for the admins... <.< uhh it's a simple 3 clicks way to move them. xD
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Apr 29, 2010 14:53:46 GMT -5
Post by Elifain on Apr 29, 2010 14:53:46 GMT -5
I would like to argue with that point, actually, there ash. Someone force sensitive, but with 0's, are generally put in the same board, as the ones with defined force powers. The difference is that they are untrained in the force, and thus can't use it, despite having the potential to. This being said, Zero, being part of a force user family, if you had planned on him learning the force, should have been stuck using the force user profile sketch, but with the 0's in there, and defined part saying he does not know he is force sensitive, to clear up that issue.
The way zero wants to do it rag, is based on the old system, which brings in to question, with the changing of the systems, did that carry over as well? I have looked through the rules, and there is nowhere in them that has the trials for becoming force sensitive. Whether that be a mistake on Cains half, or done specifically to take out non force users transferring to force users, we will not know.
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Apr 29, 2010 16:19:28 GMT -5
Post by Zilfer on Apr 29, 2010 16:19:28 GMT -5
I would like to argue with that point, actually, there ash. Someone force sensitive, but with 0's, are generally put in the same board, as the ones with defined force powers. The difference is that they are untrained in the force, and thus can't use it, despite having the potential to. This being said, Zero, being part of a force user family, if you had planned on him learning the force, should have been stuck using the force user profile sketch, but with the 0's in there, and defined part saying he does not know he is force sensitive, to clear up that issue. The way zero wants to do it rag, is based on the old system, which brings in to question, with the changing of the systems, did that carry over as well? I have looked through the rules, and there is nowhere in them that has the trials for becoming force sensitive. Whether that be a mistake on Cains half, or done specifically to take out non force users transferring to force users, we will not know. Actually if you put 0 in a force power, it means you cannot use it. Meaning if a force user has all 0's he effectively is technically not a force sensitive. this does not mean he cannot be trained to do those things however. In any case I think this hardly matters at all, and that none force users as you qouted, like Han Solo, and Boba Fett. Are still connected to the force and use it on some level or another. Often if someone has a "bad" feeling, that's the force talking to them. They just know when trouble's coming. It's the force, and you don't have to be a force user to get those feelings or tap into the force subconsciously. Besides if someone changes their mind down the line to make them a force user how would you say they should go about doing it? Repost their profile to be reaccepted into force user? That just adds another topic and even more work then moving them from Force user to Non force user. also when someone requests stat upgrades they need to go through an admin to change them otherwise if they get caught they will be banned.
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Apr 29, 2010 17:14:20 GMT -5
Post by Ragsmire on Apr 29, 2010 17:14:20 GMT -5
Rag, every living thing in the galaxy is connected to the force. If one person receaved training in it at a young age, and someone else didn't, then so is life, but if that second person learned how to tap into the force and use it, then no big deal. Akira is force sensitive, and was taken by the jedi at a young age because thats the way it turned out. Zero, her older brother, may have been also a force sensitive, as family members usually are. By the time Zero had more siblings, the jedi were whiped out.
Now, if i did origionally have zero as a force sensitive here, his force stats would have been all 0's, and he has no training whatsoever, so he was placed under non-force user. If you also read many books, then there are quite a few force using families that hid from the empire so their children wouldn't be caught by them. I give you Corran Horn, jedi master of the new republic. During the early days, no one knew his family were force users. He never learned his ansestrial leniage. He was also Corellia born. If placed on this site when he was younger, he would be a non-force user. Later on, force user. The same is for Zero
All in all, if someone is a non-force user, all they need is training to become a force user, just like the old site. Simple? lol. ...Alright lets begin my response. To Ash. That is not true, There are some who are force sensitive and some who are not. Every living thing from the ST galaxy, Excluding Vong of course, Do have a tie with the force. BUT not everything can use the force as a tool, Like Jedi or Sith, Some cannot ever be trained to use it, That's just that. So while i will totally and undeniably agree with the fact that on some level everything is connected with the force i will have to argue that not everyone can learn how to use it. No, no, just no. If you had always intended Zero to learn the force, Or be force sensitive, Then he should have been placed in the force user characters section with 1's in all force related categories. As for Horn No never notta wouldn't have worked that way. If Horn was on this site he's younger self, Having ALWAYS been force sensitive, Would have gone into the force user section with 1's No its not simple like that, This is not the old site. I would like to argue with that point, actually, there ash. Someone force sensitive, but with 0's, are generally put in the same board, as the ones with defined force powers. The difference is that they are untrained in the force, and thus can't use it, despite having the potential to. This being said, Zero, being part of a force user family, if you had planned on him learning the force, should have been stuck using the force user profile sketch, but with the 0's in there, and defined part saying he does not know he is force sensitive, to clear up that issue. The way zero wants to do it rag, is based on the old system, which brings in to question, with the changing of the systems, did that carry over as well? I have looked through the rules, and there is nowhere in them that has the trials for becoming force sensitive. Whether that be a mistake on Cains half, or done specifically to take out non force users transferring to force users, we will not know. That's pretty much how i see it, Eli. If Zero was always able to truly access the force as say...A Jedi knight...or Sith then he should have been written up as untrained but sensitive. I had taken the lack of trials mentioned as a pretty clear sign, Non Force user conversion wasn't happening anymore. No more classes so that wasn't really needed. Maybe I'm wrong we'll have to wait on the big guy for true clarification on this one. I would like to argue with that point, actually, there ash. Someone force sensitive, but with 0's, are generally put in the same board, as the ones with defined force powers. The difference is that they are untrained in the force, and thus can't use it, despite having the potential to. This being said, Zero, being part of a force user family, if you had planned on him learning the force, should have been stuck using the force user profile sketch, but with the 0's in there, and defined part saying he does not know he is force sensitive, to clear up that issue. The way zero wants to do it rag, is based on the old system, which brings in to question, with the changing of the systems, did that carry over as well? I have looked through the rules, and there is nowhere in them that has the trials for becoming force sensitive. Whether that be a mistake on Cains half, or done specifically to take out non force users transferring to force users, we will not know. Actually if you put 0 in a force power, it means you cannot use it. Meaning if a force user has all 0's he effectively is technically not a force sensitive. this does not mean he cannot be trained to do those things however. In any case I think this hardly matters at all, and that none force users as you qouted, like Han Solo, and Boba Fett. Are still connected to the force and use it on some level or another. Often if someone has a "bad" feeling, that's the force talking to them. They just know when trouble's coming. It's the force, and you don't have to be a force user to get those feelings or tap into the force subconsciously. Besides if someone changes their mind down the line to make them a force user how would you say they should go about doing it? Repost their profile to be reaccepted into force user? That just adds another topic and even more work then moving them from Force user to Non force user. also when someone requests stat upgrades they need to go through an admin to change them otherwise if they get caught they will be banned. That's how i took it, Instead 1's would go in place for non force trained force sensitives. I beg to differ here. If you is not force sensitive they cannot be trained to become so, And very very few things in Star wars grants force sensitivity. One is ether born force sensitive or is not, There is no switching. It matters greatly. Oh yes it matters greatly. I'm going to return to the original trilogy briefly since it is must well known on site. Leia did not use the force during it, At all. Nor did Han, We all know these to be true. Now after the movies Leia learned to utilize the force, Han never did...Why? Is Han solo too cool for it? Probably but that wasn't the reason. The reason is...he is not force sensitive Ergo can never learn it. So while i will agree with the fact that all are linked to it on some level those levels very greatly, Such large gaps in fact you cannot hope to hurdle pass. There is the Jedi/Sith level of things, Or the Luke/Anakin level if we wanna go characters. And then there is the Han/Boba level. While Luke and Anakin could not use the force from birth they were always force sensitive. Han and Boba cannot use the force and never will be able to. I'm not saying people shouldn't have the right to take a character in a different direction, I'm not commie trying to oppress people. I'm only pointing out that maybe one should keep their character on the path set...i mean what happen to the original concept that makes the need for the force to come in?
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Apr 29, 2010 20:53:29 GMT -5
Post by Zilfer on Apr 29, 2010 20:53:29 GMT -5
Ok i'm already on the first part and of your post against mine and you are wrong.... Leia did use the force. She has a force connection with Luke and could sense him in pain. That's how they found luke on Bespin. I'd also like to point out there are not "levels" of the force, so what if you have more mediclorians but that means jack if I have more knowledge of the force then you. Power is knowledge and how you have been trained. Aniken may have more mediclorians then Yoda, but Yoda was much more powerful then Aniken, and I often wonder what would have happened if Yoda had fought Aniken instead of Obiwan.
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Apr 30, 2010 18:15:38 GMT -5
Post by DarkSaber on Apr 30, 2010 18:15:38 GMT -5
I agree with Zilfer. Yoda would have kicked Anakin's ass flat even though Anakin had more midi-chlorians than Yoda.
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Apr 30, 2010 18:40:34 GMT -5
Post by Ragsmire on Apr 30, 2010 18:40:34 GMT -5
Ok i'm already on the first part and of your post against mine and you are wrong.... Leia did use the force. She has a force connection with Luke and could sense him in pain. That's how they found luke on Bespin. I'd also like to point out there are not "levels" of the force, so what if you have more mediclorians but that means jack if I have more knowledge of the force then you. Power is knowledge and how you have been trained. Aniken may have more mediclorians then Yoda, but Yoda was much more powerful then Aniken, and I often wonder what would have happened if Yoda had fought Aniken instead of Obiwan. ...>.> I didn't mean Leia never used the force,Any force sensitive can sense things, especially when its family related. What i meant and said at one point was she never used it like Luke. But ether way my point stands. Leia was always force sensitive she didn't just become so. No actually it does mean a little something. Those with high levels can use the force, Those without cannot use it. Han Solo could know every trick in the book in regard to force powers it wouldn't make him force sensitive. Doesn't matter if your not force sensitive. But both are force sensitive. Characters placed under non force user, Where this discussion began, Are not, Or so i had thought. I', sure Yoda would have mopped up against Anakin that's got little to do with this.
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Apr 30, 2010 18:44:46 GMT -5
Post by Elifain on Apr 30, 2010 18:44:46 GMT -5
Talked to cain, and i'm bettin zil has done the same by now. The trials are not in the rules anymore, but that doesn't mean that one cannot go from non force user to force user. Cains stance, just like zils, was that as long as the person can do the rp for the sensitive learning, then they can go from non sensitive to sensitive.
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