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Post by MikDaTv on Dec 12, 2010 1:40:29 GMT -5
Hah, so the arm is superior in some circumstances. name one? |
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Post by Roku on Dec 12, 2010 8:32:29 GMT -5
There's not much point, you'll just use your vast knowledge to counter it.
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Post by Ragsmire on Dec 12, 2010 16:27:18 GMT -5
Then maybe you should trust that vast knowledge and just go with the personal energy shield? I dunno just a crazy idea.  |
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Post by Roku on Dec 12, 2010 17:34:14 GMT -5
I see the belt barrier as being boring.
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Post by MikDaTv on Dec 12, 2010 17:35:08 GMT -5
There's not much point, you'll just use your vast knowledge to counter it. and how do you think I got this vast store of useless star wars technical trivia? Come on, don't be a coward. It's not like your going to get hurt. I can't help you if your going to give up because I know more than you. |
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Post by Roku on Dec 12, 2010 18:47:19 GMT -5
My character who uses this device is blind, having a full barrier around her might disturb her force "vision" probably better to just have a flexible portable shield. Also, from the image of the belt shield thing, you just stand there with it. You can't fight practically. I don't care for the belt device.
So aside from "There's already similar devices" why can't this particular model exist?
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Post by Crazy O on Dec 12, 2010 19:37:55 GMT -5
If the device is similar to others does not mean it is automatically should be approved. Your device however is not similaras yours is not simple a shield but a weapon also. So how does it store the energy, how large is the shield area, how much of the energy is disputed vs how much is stored, how much damage can it take before discharging and if under constant attack can it discharge (a possible weakness), what is the discharge like (Like a blaster or a shockwave, does the shield peremeter non energy base weapons to pass through (as hinted by your description)?
New ideas are about details that allow others to be able to understand something. If they don't you start getting people shouting godmodding or you are making things up on the spot.
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Post by Zilfer on Dec 12, 2010 19:45:32 GMT -5
You can fight with the shield around you. Shields usually only stop certain kinds of either energy or melee attacks. >.> Meanwhile you can shoot blasters through it, slice with vibroblades still, and even use force lightning through this shield and not disturb it at all. I'd say the shields would not affect your force "vision" because the force is all around you. You sense things, and i'm assuming that's how your character does a lot of the daily moving about is to sense her surroundings. A shield might just make a low hum but if you used it you'd get used to that, and the hum wouldn't be too loud i think. I'd also like to direct you to this device. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light-shieldSimiliar to what you are trying to accomplish it seems and it has been used by previous members. Or was going to be used by some. I personally have used one, and i think Gall here has or planned to. |
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Post by MikDaTv on Dec 12, 2010 19:55:21 GMT -5
My character who uses this device is blind, having a full barrier around her might disturb her force "vision" It won't probably better to just have a flexible portable shield. Also, from the image of the belt shield thing, you just stand there with it. You can't fight practically. I don't care for the belt device. tell that to Kyle Katarn So aside from "There's already similar devices" why can't this particular model exist? The only actual errors i see in it are in that it can absorb blaster energy and store it with no damage. If there were such a device, why doesn't every soldier have a suit made out of this stuff? Plus, only being on your arm means the other guy needs to actually be aiming at your arm for it to be of any use. The second is where you tell me it's a shield that uses lightsaber technology but it's cool to the touch when you put your hand through it. What good is a shield that the other guy can put a hand through? furthermore, if he does put his hand through it how many different kinds of cancer is his arm going to have later on that night? |
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Post by Roku on Dec 12, 2010 21:06:59 GMT -5
Mik:
It is radiation, but its safer than sticking your hand in a light saber blade. lol It's probably not a GOOD idea to stick your hand in it, by any means. Let me explain how the beam absorber works, is draws the energy from a foot and a half away aproximately. Essentially, if someone shoots at your knee caps, you could still absorb the shot if you held your palm at about hip level. The blast will change direction, and aim itself at your palm and be "eaten" effectively.
The lightsaber blocking device is completely different part of it, located along the forearm. a button activates it, and puts it away.
The reason why no other character on the site has one, is because no other character has spoken to it's inventor. And that's just logical... He's located underneath the slums on coruscant. If you're validated, you might be able to visit.
The device can only absorb probably 3-4 blaster shots before it has to be discharged. Emptied basically. Its for emergencies, not constant abuse.
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Zilfer that's the general idea, but I don't want it to be dangerous. Just protective.
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Odan: It needs to be manually discharged. the point is, that once she's absorbed a few blasts, she's ready to actually dodge things now too. lol It's not supposed to be uber or gay or whatever, it's just a bracer gadget. =/
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Post by MikDaTv on Dec 12, 2010 22:21:16 GMT -5
So it doesn't just absorb blaster fire and store it's energy, it actually sucks the blaster fire in. As much as i'd like to ask the "how the hell does it do that?" question these would probably be better questions.
What if your firing a pistol or using a lightsaber? Would it not just suck those into it as well? Especially since your implying that it's an "always on" kind of thing designed to give the wearer a chance to get behind cover after a surprise attack.
What if you get shot in the back? What if they guy is using a projectile weapon like a bowcaster? What if the guy throws a rock at you? What if he doesn't just fire one shot? What if he goes fully automatic on you or shoots you at point blank range.
What possible reason would your character have for wearing this useless device as apposed to something that could actually offer him some form of protection?
and again, with your shield. If it's radiation in some kind of containment field, it's not going to be cool to the touch by any means. But if it's just a containment field designed to stop only lightsabers, what good is it when 99.9% of the galaxy uses blasters and projectile weapons. I'd tell your inventor to devote his time to inventing an instant coffee machine, it would have more practical use than this shield. Especially when there are devices already in existence, have been in existence for hundreds of years, and protect the person using them way better than this thing does.
in short. could such a device exist? maybe. But why on earth would you ever want one? Especially if your fighting a force user who can just smack you around with the invisible energy field that they can control or the guy shooting at you can shoot you 4 times instead of 3.
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Post by Roku on Dec 12, 2010 22:32:49 GMT -5
Do you think a blind character cares if the person firing the weapon is behind them? She can't see them anyway with her eyes. She's very aware of whats going on behind her. =/ She has just as much of a chance of dodging them...Rock: She would just...duck? Throw it back? What does it have to do with a blaster absorber? It wouldn't absorb a lightsaber blade.
What if he shoots me at point blank range in the back? I guess I die or put up a force shield. Good luck getting that close though.
And now you go on to do exactly as I predicted... basically mock the design. Maybe I don't want some elite defense that always works. Grawr....
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Post by MikDaTv on Dec 13, 2010 4:49:14 GMT -5
Do you think a blind character cares if the person firing the weapon is behind them? She can't see them anyway with her eyes. She's very aware of whats going on behind her. =/ She has just as much of a chance of dodging them...Rock: She would just...duck? Throw it back? What does it have to do with a blaster absorber? Oh yeah... I forgot. Blind people are omniscient and can dodge bullets. But my point was not that you couldn't see the blaster bolt, it was that the device designed to protect you would be ineffective at stopping people from shooting you in the back. It wouldn't absorb a lightsaber blade. Why not? It would come within your stated distance of a foot and a half quite often in a fight. And now you go on to do exactly as I predicted... basically mock the design. Well as a personal defense device, it's next to useless. As a concept though, its implications could be disastrous. A device that can suck up blaster bolts and store their energy could be used in any manner of ways. You use it as some kind of pretty arm accessory but someone with practicality in mind to use this technology for some fairly over powered weapons. Technically with devices like this you could make starships completely impervious to turbolasers and arm it with a weapon powered by the shots fired at it. Thats why this is called the New Ideas section and not the New Devices section. |
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Post by Roku on Dec 13, 2010 5:08:53 GMT -5
So what do you want then?
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Post by MikDaTv on Dec 13, 2010 7:09:44 GMT -5
No technology on BHOD is exclusive. No weapons or gadgets can be used only by a single character.
Your correct in thinking this device is fairly harmless in the hands of just your character, but not just your character will have access to it if this gets approved.
Now, there are all kinds of existing technology that you can use to achieve similar results that won't require you to invent some crazy new blaster bolt vacuum device. A lot of these technology will even conform to the kind of rule of cool your trying to go for here. Like my full body personal shield or Zilfers lightshield. They won't interrupt your characters ability to access the Force, they won't hinder your characters senses and they'll actually do a damn spot better at protecting you. Those are just two, have you looked through the star wars wiki? It's filled with page after page of possible opportunities for you that will still allow your guy to look like the guy from Lost Planet.
In other words. I want you to take the time to put some effort into making a device that won't allow someone with resources and imagination to make something ridiculously over powered.
Or you can take your chances with Odan or Cain accepting it how it is in which case i wish you good luck.
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