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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 18:10:54 GMT -5
The Moses Brothers Self-Defense Engine Model B is a slugthrower manufactured by Moses Brothers Firearms. It generally fires .38 caliber rounds composed of a primitive steel-osmium alloy with tungsten cores propelled by chemical cartridges, though it can fire any rounds designed for a .38 caliber pistol chamber.   Weapon Type: Slugthrower, Box-fed Weight: 40 oz. Length: 10 inches Barrel Length: 6.5 inches Muzzle Velocity: 3000 feet/second Ammunition: Any slug chambered for a .38 pistol. Rounds include armor-piercing, anti-personnel 'shredders', tracers, 'grape shot' scatter rounds, and incendiary rounds. AP Rounds: Designed to pierce the armors of the day, from synthetic weaves to hard plate armors made of materials such as durasteel. Shredder Rounds: Designed to shatter inside of a soft target. Tracer Rounds: Coated with a chemical that ignites in the barrel so that the round can be tracked through the air. Scatter Rounds: Designed for close range. Projectile experiences a secondary chemical explosion in flight, breaking the projectile into many separate fragments. Incendiary Rounds: Impact with target creates a reaction in which an incendiary chemical is ignited within the projectile, burning the projectile and the target that it is embedded in. Ammunition Capacity: 6 rounds Firing Type: Semi-automatic or 'Burst' (Automatic fire, emptying the weapon) Vs. Blasters: As a slugthrower, the Model B has certain advantages over blasters and certain disadvantages. The Model B throws its projectile at a significantly faster velocity than a blaster bolt, however, the projectiles are ballistic and susceptible to wind and gravity. Slugs are also considerably more expensive than blaster gas. However, since the Model B is purely mechanical and does not rely on a high-powered battery like a blaster, it is easier to repair and maintain in harsh conditions. Slugthrowers have the distinct advantage of firing projectiles that are undetectable to the naked eye when in motion. History: Moses Brothers Firearms is an arms manufacturer based primarily on Orlais. While it does produce a few models of reliable blaster, it is primarily known for supplying the people of Orlais with more 'traditional' weapons in the form of slugthrowers. The Model B was first used as a reliable sidearm in the Frontier Wars of 4,050 BBY (Hence the 'Frontier' designation). After the wars, in times of peace, Orlesian nobles were known to favor this weapon (Modified for, or loaded with, only one shot) as a dueling pistol. Known for its extraordinary balance of accuracy and power, the Model B provides a weapon that is accurate up to 150 yards and that delivers a powerful concussive force with the reputation for being relatively easy to keep on target for multiple shots due to a state of the art recoil energy absorbing system. |
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 20, 2010 18:57:50 GMT -5
A Firefly fan apparently. I'm not surprised at all.
Anyway. A sound principle weapon. I'd like to see more details like it's design history and usage. it doesn't use a battery so does it use a chemical propellant? can it use various kinds of rounds?
what makes it cool? other than it's an awesome space cowboy gun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 19:41:48 GMT -5
I've modified it slightly with a brief history. I will be back on at some point later tonight.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 20, 2010 20:49:32 GMT -5
define burst.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 22:11:33 GMT -5
A 'Burst' is when a firearm that is otherwise incapable of fully automatic fire expels all of its ammunition in a short period of time.
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Post by Crazy O on Sept 22, 2010 1:43:12 GMT -5
Okay a few things....
What is a Disruptor or 'phasic' rounds.
What mik is asking is how many rounds in the burst. is it a two round burst, three round burst, more?
Also, I am unsure if you could consider not being able to see the weapon is an advantage, as you can still hear it. Also, there are blasters with... invisible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2010 11:03:21 GMT -5
Disruptor rounds are rounds that 'phase' through personal shielding.
The burst would empty the weapon.
Not being able to trace where the fire is coming from is an advantage in itself. From close range the sound of a gunshot is distracting and harsh, and it's very difficult to pinpoint the location of the sound of a gunshot at range.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2010 11:59:47 GMT -5
i don't know about "phasing" through personal shielding. Seems like if things like that were available they would be used all the time.
However, any solid matter projectile should be able to penetrate ray shielding with little trouble. But most personal shields have particle shields included as well so i'm not sure how that helps.
I would think of a disruptor round more along the lines of a bowcaster quill. A solid projectile surrounded in an energy casing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2010 12:03:19 GMT -5
I'm probably mistaken. I thought that disruptor weapons were illegal because they ignored shielding and disintegrated people.
The comment about the bowcaster bolts would be correct. Energy encased projectiles.
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Post by Crazy O on Sept 22, 2010 12:28:17 GMT -5
Disruptor weapons are illegal because they destroy matter on the molecular level, as such they are looked as immoral and cruel; same as biological and chemical weapons during this time.
I agree with Mik that the Disruptor round is unreasonable base on your description. Personal shields in star wars are divided between energy base defense (ray shields) and Kinetic base defense (Particle Shields). You well find that most personal shields are ray shields because energy base weapons are so prolific and projectile base weapons are rare. Also personal armor is a much better defense from particle weapons then personal shields.
This brings up another point... You have all these different types of rounds. Now armor penetrating does not explain the level of armor that it can penetrate. Mandalorian Iron is a harden armor which can stand up to a lot while a conventional .38 Magnum full metal jacket round could not punch through even Kevlar armor with a steel trauma plate. The anti-personal round is fine. The grapeshot would be ineffective base on the fact that you have such a short barrel and only a .38 round. This means your shots would be made up of very few pellets which would spread out extremely fast making effective only at point blank range. The incinerary round could use a little more explanation also based off the method it burns things. Is it a chemical tip like an high alkaline metal or is like a liquid naipon in a soft tip which explodes over a target? details details details.
Also even though you posed what burst was in a later post it should be still explained in the initial post sense when I see burst I think of 3 round burst which is the current standard when in a burst fire mode.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2010 12:35:54 GMT -5
May I just say that I know nothing about ballistic ammunition, and that I simply added these things because I was asked to do so? I was content with firing every-day run-of-the-mill "Bullets".
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2010 12:48:38 GMT -5
actually O i think they do make .38 scatter shot bullets. it's called Ratshot if i'm not mistaken and they make them for as little as a .22 if i remember correctly. not very good for killing a man, but it works great on small animals.
as for the incediary rounds i think the word incendiary works fine. it's a bullet that sets crap on fire. There are most likely a dozen or more cool star wars pseudo science devices that can do that.
As for the disruptor round i could see a bullet being sheathed in disruptor type energy but i don't see why you wouldn't just use a disruptor.
For Armor pericing rounds i'll only say this. An armor peircing pistol is a very difficult thing. pistol rounds just don't go fast enough.
and i have a question. Is this a magnetically accelerated projectile or is it like a conventional gun with the round being propelled by a chemcial explosion?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2010 12:54:27 GMT -5
It uses chemical cartridges.
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Post by MikDaTv on Sept 22, 2010 13:00:29 GMT -5
Still not sure about the armor peircing round but other than that i'd give it my ok.
on a completely unrelated note, how come i can't edit my things in the accpeted new ideas board? i was going to add those details we talked about last night odan but it won't let me modify.
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Post by Crazy O on Sept 25, 2010 20:00:10 GMT -5
Approved:
Note, The AP rounds are currently not accepted because they don't make sense base on the description of the weapon, but the weapon itself and all other rounds are good.
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