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Post by Jace on Nov 16, 2013 1:20:44 GMT -5
Well I've been wanting to do this for a long time and now since I have the time i can, it's simple a death battle between three sci-fi fandoms. Star Wars/Mass Effect and Halo, now to avoid a massive heated debate where people will come out murdering the person they argued against there are a few rules to stop that from happening. 1. No super weapons allowed (since every sci-fi fandom has there own "kill all switch" with star wars death star, halo's ark and even mass effect's crucible. 2. With Star Wars taking place in so many Era's I'm going to limit them to just one, and since this site is based so heavily on the old republic era why not stay there, I may change this rule due to popular request but for now lets stick to the old republic era IE KOTOR 1,2 and the MMO. 3. Every sci-fi has their own extinct race with there super advance/super awesome technology (Halo's Forerunner's, Star Wars Celetiral's. I would include Mass Effect's Prothians but they suck and no one cares about them.) So whats dead stays dead. Now we got the rules out of the way lets talk about how this all is going to work, for one thing each fandom is going to have there supposed expert and since I don't know a whole lot about Star Wars I'll be the Halo "expert" here, mostly it's the first sci-fi I got into. Next like Deadliest Warrior were going to examining a single force for each fandom instead of doing one massive battle where every species and factions fight together. It's going to come down to either one faction or race. Next were going to examine multiple armaments for each fandom with a maximum of - Weapons (3 per fandom (Short/Medium/Long Range)
- Armor
- Vehicles (1 per fandom)
- Special Weapons/Armaments 2 per fandom
- Tactics
Well that about covers it, I am writing this up late at night so if I forgot anything important tell me, as for which faction or race I'm representing for Halo that would be the UNSC. Jace: Halo (UNSC) ? ?
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Post by MikDaTv on Nov 17, 2013 11:46:14 GMT -5
i could probably stand in as an expert on either star wars or Mass Effect (or halo for that matter). it's kind of a practice in futility though since star wars just wins.
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Post by Zilfer on Nov 17, 2013 12:05:57 GMT -5
The force is pretty boss though it's almost comparable to Biotics.... I'm not sure Halo has anything that can keep up with Mass Effect/Star Wars.
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Post by MikDaTv on Nov 18, 2013 2:17:55 GMT -5
The force is pretty boss though it's almost comparable to Biotics.... I'm not sure Halo has anything that can keep up with Mass Effect/Star Wars. almost comparable? you cant brainwash people with biotics. you can shoot lighting out of your fingers with biotics. you cant predict the future with biotics. star wars is just all around better. ships are faster and generally bigger, shields are stronger, weapons are more powerful, armor is tougher and it's just plain all around bigger. I mean your comparing two relatively new franchises to one thats been kicking at full strength since the 1970s.
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Post by Jace on Nov 18, 2013 10:51:10 GMT -5
Mind you I know nothing of the EU past episode 6, also lets try to keep this on the ground.
Side Note: lets hope Disney doesn't fuck up 7, 8 and 9 but I'm not holding my breath
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Post by Zilfer on Nov 21, 2013 22:27:30 GMT -5
The force is pretty boss though it's almost comparable to Biotics.... I'm not sure Halo has anything that can keep up with Mass Effect/Star Wars. almost comparable? you cant brainwash people with biotics. you can shoot lighting out of your fingers with biotics. you cant predict the future with biotics. star wars is just all around better. ships are faster and generally bigger, shields are stronger, weapons are more powerful, armor is tougher and it's just plain all around bigger. I mean your comparing two relatively new franchises to one thats been kicking at full strength since the 1970s. Do you remember Morinth? She can definately brain wash people. I mean you have to be COMMANDER SHEPARD in order to resist her and it's STILL hard . 90% paragon or renegade and didn't have the option! I mean sure Mass Effect ships get messed up pretty quickly but I picture their weapon's pretty damn strong, with the explosions seeming to be larger than most of star wars explosions. Star wars albeit have way larger ships or seem to. Though the reapers seem to take quite a beating and you can be sure they'd be in the war. Pretty impressive one army is able to take most of the joint efforts of the entire galaxy and multiple races. I think you have it on 'telling the future' with biotic's on the force buuuut it's pretty damn similiar in my opinion except it's more 'flashy.' You could say it's more "Dark Side Techniquy" because it's very destructive. Though as far as I know it doesn't corrupt you to the darkside . But yeah Halo I don't think would stand a chance sadly. Don't get me wrong though, I'm damn sure Star wars would win
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Post by MikDaTv on Nov 22, 2013 18:50:24 GMT -5
almost comparable? you cant brainwash people with biotics. you can shoot lighting out of your fingers with biotics. you cant predict the future with biotics. star wars is just all around better. ships are faster and generally bigger, shields are stronger, weapons are more powerful, armor is tougher and it's just plain all around bigger. I mean your comparing two relatively new franchises to one thats been kicking at full strength since the 1970s. Do you remember Morinth? She can definately brain wash people. I mean you have to be COMMANDER SHEPARD in order to resist her and it's STILL hard . 90% paragon or renegade and didn't have the option! I mean sure Mass Effect ships get messed up pretty quickly but I picture their weapon's pretty damn strong, with the explosions seeming to be larger than most of star wars explosions. Star wars albeit have way larger ships or seem to. Though the reapers seem to take quite a beating and you can be sure they'd be in the war. Pretty impressive one army is able to take most of the joint efforts of the entire galaxy and multiple races. I think you have it on 'telling the future' with biotic's on the force buuuut it's pretty damn similiar in my opinion except it's more 'flashy.' You could say it's more "Dark Side Techniquy" because it's very destructive. Though as far as I know it doesn't corrupt you to the darkside . But yeah Halo I don't think would stand a chance sadly. Don't get me wrong though, I'm damn sure Star wars would win the psychic whammy Mornith puts on you is an Asari thing, not a biotic thing. The weapons in mass effect are Mass Accelerators. they drive a heavy slug of simple solid metal at really high speed. shoot a big enough one at a asteroid and you can bust it up. however turbolasers can vaporize an asteroid entirely, poof, gone. Mass Effect ships also only have one primary mass accelerator weapon, most star wars ships have at least a few turbolasers. plus, turbolasers are energy weapons. Kinetic Barriers don't do anything to stop kinetic barriers. meanwhile star wars ships have a separate set of shields (navigation shields) which are designed specifically to stop solid objects from hitting your ship at high speed to prevent accidents while jumping to hyperspace.
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Post by Zilfer on Nov 25, 2013 17:13:58 GMT -5
And as you've said in the past species abilities are linked to the force. I believe we were talking about Ysalamiri, and Vornskr in the past, and that other species' abilities may in fact be natural developed 'force powers'.
The Asari would then have learned that aspect, though I could have sworn more than just Asari could mind control. Her form of it was very powerful Asari bloodlines because not all Asari can use biotics right? Kinda like some have more use of the force than others.
On the note of 'control' where would you put Hacking ability on the scale of Mass Effect to Star Wars? Is there a Star wars Geth equivalent, Or Reaper? They seem to be the top contenders for hacking things. In Star wars I'm not sure droids have every been anything more than fodder where they are large contenders in ME.
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Post by MikDaTv on Nov 25, 2013 23:29:40 GMT -5
Well the asari psychic powers are part of their biology since that's how they reproduce. The way I understood liaras explanation in ME1 was that they combine themselves with the personality of their mate and from that comes their offspring. That's why all asari children are asari and not hybrids. Weather that has anything to do with bionics is up for grabs though. I don't believe they mention it either way.
As for AI constructs what your really asking is more than one question. Because the geth are more than their shell. It's true star wars uses droids pretty much as every day servants, laborers and soldiers that's because they are mass produced and stamped out in a factory somewhere for very specific purposes. Cargo loaders are very good at loading cargo but not much else but that's not a flaw in their design, that, is their design.
The geth build their own bodies to be as versatile as possible. Which is why they have hands and fingers rather than built in weapons or big forklift hands. Any geth can be transferred to any platform at just about any time so the platforms themselves change their jobs accordingly. They are more versatile, but less specialized.
As for AI. Droid brains are stamped out in factories and programmed with intelligences based n what their used for, where as in mass effect, AI is generally shunned and avoided out of fear. I would say Star Wars would have better defenses given that the geth don't hack each other and everyone else has little to no experience with AI hacking.
However Star Wars droid brains are usually cheap units used to drive simple machines. Units of true powerful intelligence are rare and usually military.
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