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Post by Damocles on Jul 1, 2010 1:28:59 GMT -5
ITS OVER 9000!!!! Ahem now that thats out the way lets get started. I've seen alot of ummm ideas...floating around here lately and thought well its about time for my Joke/stupid idea. So here we go! Ladies and Gentlemen have you ever been facing a force user and wondered what exactly are you facing. Wondered how powerful in the force is this force user exactly, just how much of a chance you exactly stand. Well for your convience I give you the FORCE SCOUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!! (we love exclamation points) The force scouter is a device that is worn on the users left eye, the screen goes over the eye while the com link goes over the ear. They range in all different colors from the pink one (Shown above) to green to purple. The force scouter is a small portable device that is capable of determining the power level ahem I mean force level of a force user. It does this by detecting the number of medichlorians (yes I know they are not cannon just stick with me) in a persons body and giving the user of the scouter an accurate read out. This read is given in a number value and can range from 1 to well OVER 9000!!!! The Force scouter is also capable of determining where a force user is located in a small area (More so up to and around 50 miles). So if a bounty hunter is chasing a force user to a planet they can easily determine how many force users are in the area and pin point of their exact locations. (No it will not tell you which force user is which you have to do that yourselves you lazy bums...) The scouter is also a communcation device that can broadcast over several frequencies, any of which can be set by the user of the scouter to communcate with people on their team or anyone else using a scouter. There are slight limitations to these things of course, if a person is too powerful in the force (I'm lookin at you Cain) the scouter can overload and EXPLODE ON YOUR FACE!!!! Secondly these things are really fragile and can be easily broken just by crushing them or having them shot.
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Post by Ragsmire on Jul 1, 2010 3:19:47 GMT -5
Well Drake this is pretty much the best idea i've seen all week so good job on that. ;D Now onto the item itself. i don't see this as a joke, admittedly i was almost to do this myself. The whole premise sounds plausible to me, Midi-chlorians are cannon to the best of my knowledge. Wiki link: starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MidichloriansAnd the concept of a force detector is not all that foreign from SW, i mean the empire had one for finding force sensitives during their regime. The only real problem i can see initially would be the deciding factor in regards to the actual number, whose to say guy A, possesses 758 Midi-chlorians, when Guy B is scaled at a little ol' 139? Plus what would this range to face explosion be, How much can one of the scouters handle before that point? I believe the highest recorded in DBZ was something like 180,000, so is the number the same or, what i'd assume, higher then that considering the craziness of some of the strength levels here?
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Post by Zilfer on Jul 1, 2010 10:01:00 GMT -5
Also note that the force flows through everything. not sure if you want to track every living thing in a 50 mile radius was it?
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Post by Damocles on Jul 1, 2010 12:51:46 GMT -5
Well now that is a good point Z that would have to be addressed if you guys are taking this idea seriously. Hmmm I guess it could be fine toned to pick up umm well umm...I'll get back to you when I think of something
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Post by Ragsmire on Jul 1, 2010 12:54:47 GMT -5
Also note that the force flows through everything. not sure if you want to track every living thing in a 50 mile radius was it? Well i had assumed this scouter would be programed to detail only significant Midi-chlorians levels, i wouldn't assume an animal or a tree would have anything above a hundred thereby cutting the needless readings down, and with proper adjustment it could track just force sensitives and not powerful rocks.
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Post by Damocles on Jul 1, 2010 12:57:54 GMT -5
That sounds awesome Rag, good work on that one I was too tired to come up with a descent answer...
And yes the highest number recorded was 180 thousand thanks to mr. Goku's Kaioken x 2 (DBZ Buff in the works). But I figure those was the newer models, and well sense I doubt anyone will be that strong in the force these could be like the older models on Namek that clunk out around 24 thousand (Vegeta's level when he first arrived on Namek)
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Post by Ragsmire on Jul 1, 2010 13:04:09 GMT -5
No problem, Drake, i'm always down for a good idea, and unlike some...other one on the board right now this is a great one! ;D Now i would like to motion a pass on this idea, all in favor yays, these not nays? lol
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Post by Darth Hades on Jul 1, 2010 13:22:54 GMT -5
but you guys have to remember that Krillan and Gohan were able to hide their levels from Freeza's goons. A force user could do the same.
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Post by Damocles on Jul 1, 2010 13:51:01 GMT -5
No they were able to hide their true power by surpressing their power level, everyone still gives off a power level regardless. Trunks for example a super saiyan supressed his power level to 5, though not his true level he still gave off a reading. This was the other disadvantage of the scouter (Forgot to mention in my rush to post it) that it only detects the energy levels that are given out and does not compensate for potential hidden energy levels which of course is why Vegeta was so pissed when Goku's power read OVER 9000 cause the scouter first saw it at 5000 when he was on the way there.
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Post by MikDaTv on Jul 1, 2010 14:09:11 GMT -5
Also note that the force flows through everything. not sure if you want to track every living thing in a 50 mile radius was it? Well i had assumed this scouter would be programed to detail only significant Midi-chlorians levels, i wouldn't assume an animal or a tree would have anything above a hundred thereby cutting the needless readings down, and with proper adjustment it could track just force sensitives and not powerful rocks. Since i would very much like to avoid any and all mention of those things which i will not name, i'll offer up an alternative. A simple life signs sensor which can tell the difference between planet animal and sentient life. Sensors on starships can determin the difference between species. the scouter can have something similar. A short range sensor that can tell the difference between simple alien life and more complex sentient life. The sensor can filter out all the non sentient life from it's force readings.
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Post by kuratii on Jul 1, 2010 15:52:05 GMT -5
I like that idea. Short and to the point. Except well, its just detecting life forms. Sorry Mik but your modification gets rid of the whole detecting force energy levels. Heck, I could use my eyes to see whats rock and whats not.
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Post by MikDaTv on Jul 1, 2010 16:41:48 GMT -5
I like that idea. Short and to the point. Except well, its just detecting life forms. Sorry Mik but your modification gets rid of the whole detecting force energy levels. Heck, I could use my eyes to see whats rock and whats not. apparently you weren't paying attention. my suggestion was merely a method of making sure the force detector only finds sentient beings with strong force sensitivity. Since the force flows through all living things, the sensor as it stands would sense all living things to some degree. Adding a life signs sensor allows it to filter out all non sentient beings from the readings allowing it to only present the user with useful information.
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Post by kuratii on Jul 1, 2010 16:46:58 GMT -5
Soooo, in english, your saying just make the detector detect only high level force people instead of small insignificant people like me. I guess that works. I still don't like how I'm being called insignificant and small. Isn't that a bit rude?
But yeah, mik, I get what your saying. I actually think your idea would work better. Hopefully Drunken Master can put in his opinion since this is his device of epicness.
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Post by MikDaTv on Jul 1, 2010 16:58:37 GMT -5
no, i mean it would allow the scouter to show the user the useful information for only sentient force users, as apposed to it showing you data on the force level of that tree over there, or that duck flying overhead or that blade of grass at your feet.
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Post by Ragsmire on Jul 1, 2010 21:38:12 GMT -5
What Mik is saying is that, with this addition to the scouter it would also look for...a heart beat and what not to identify a living breathing being to, as he put it, a blade of grass since the force flows through everything.
As for the hiding thing like Gohan and the like did, i don't know if it would work the same way with this scouter considering the Ki energy, i dunno exactly how it was measured with the DBZ scouters, but i don't think they were biological, while Midi-chlorians are something found in the body therefore they can not be hidden, or so i would think.
Perhaps if used from a distance to locate these force sensitives and they known how to hide it would work, but when in direct sight i do not believe it would.
And on another note the only two ways i know of concealing ones force presence would be. A) Sith magic which is mostly dead in this era. Or B) to "blend" In with it as Jacen Solo was able to do, essentially hiding within the force itself so he could not be detected.
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